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Episode #4

Chip Conley and Christine Sperber 

The Midlife Chrysalis

March 12, 2025

Rebecca Rusch welcomes Chip Conley and Christine Sperber, co-founders of Modern Elder Academy (MEA), the world's first midlife wisdom school. This insightful conversation explores how to reframe midlife transitions from crisis to chrysalis, the importance of embracing physical well-being through all life stages, and how to navigate personal reinvention with intention and purpose.

Chip Conley and Christine Sperber 

This episode is sponsored by Momentous

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Show Notes

Transformative Insights

  • Midlife is not a crisis but a chrysalis—a time of deep transformation rather than decline.

  • Wisdom isn't about what you know, but how well you metabolize experience and share it with others.

  • The shift from an achievement-based mindset to one that values presence, purpose, and service.

  • The importance of embracing "liminality" (the space between no longer and not yet) as a necessary stage for growth.


Vulnerable Moments

  • Honest reflections on identity shifts—how letting go of old titles and roles can be both liberating and terrifying.

  • Stories of failure and reinvention, reinforcing that growth often comes from the moments when life doesn't go as planned.


Practical Wisdom

  • How to cultivate a growth mindset in midlife and beyond, seeing aging as an opportunity rather than a decline.

  • The role of daily rituals and intentional community in fostering resilience and well-being.

  • The practice of microdosing wisdom—taking in small, intentional lessons each day rather than chasing grand epiphanies.


Personal Growth

  • How curiosity is the antidote to stagnation and the key to reinvention at any stage of life.

  • The idea that we are always in the process of becoming—embracing evolution rather than clinging to a fixed identity.

  • The role of mentorship in both giving and receiving—how being a "modern elder" means balancing wisdom with humility.

  • A call to action: Don’t wait for permission to redefine yourself—step into your next chapter with intention.

Links and Resources

Upcoming MEA Events


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Show Sponsor

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